IADS Exclusive: Hunkemöller’s CEO on the importance of staying agile to keep up with digital retail trends
It is not every day that a retail CEO knows and plans his exit as the leader of a retail brand, but this is precisely what made Philip Mountford, the current CEO of Hunkemöller, an interesting guest speaker for the IADS 64th General Assembly in London last November.
Philip Mountford's career in fashion retail spans significant roles across Europe and the UK. He started at Simpson Piccadilly as a purchasing director, then advanced to senior positions in renowned companies. As CEO of Moss Bros Group PLC, he led a major menswear retailer with an extensive store network and franchise partnerships with brands like Hugo Boss and Canali. He also held the Managing Director role at Gianni Versace, focusing on regions including the UK, Ireland, and Scandinavia, and had pivotal roles at Nautica and Daks PLC. Most notably, as CEO of Hunkemöller, Europe's largest lingerie brand, he grew the business to an €800 million valuation, with e-commerce driving 40% of sales. Mountford stepped down from his position at Hunkemöller in January of this year after a transformative 15-year tenure. Before stepping down, he was able to address IADS CEOs and answer their burning questions with candid and open responses.
Hunkemöller: A lingerie brand with reinvention at its core
Since its founding in 1886, Hunkemöller has been no stranger to reinvention. This reinvention has been carried out through the test of time for the lingerie brand to weather many challenges that retailers have had to face. In the 2010s, the pace and scale of this reinvention were accelerated to expand more and to encompass the new digital age. Originally, it took Hunkemöller 100 years to open 100 stores, but when Philip Mountford took over, they opened 100 more stores in less than a year and they achieved over €300 million in e-commerce sales. Interestingly, reinvention was also a strong requirement from Hunkemöller’s shareholders: in the course of 15 years, Mountford has supervised the sale of the brand to 5 different owners, all expecting a satisfying ROI, and therefore, a new and adequate strategy to achieve it.
Marketing and brand building: A strong DNA
One area of focus that has been key for Hunkemöller is its brand DNA and mission. Hunkemöller started as a classic business with the average age of its customers and employees at 45. True to its trend of reinvention, today the average age of the employees is sub-28. Due to the increased importance of social media to reach target customers, Hunkemöller has made this area of its business a key driver and is even considered by tech providers as one of the most advanced in testing and implementing new practices. The retailer has been so open to adopting new tech that Meta and Google have even included Hunkemöller in their test team to try out new features and solutions first as they are so progressive as a use case.
For example, Hunkemöller was included in a Google project where they built out a datalake that allows them to pull information to learn more about their customers. The information gives them access to sales data which allows the business to understand the customer’s shopping habits such as the frequency they visit, the months they shop, and their e-commerce habits. This data allows Hunkemöller to stimulate the customer in periods they tend to shop. They then use this data to find customers that are visiting a little bit more frequently or spending a little bit more than the target group so they can find ways to get the customers to increase their purchase behaviour to match the next level of shopper. The Hunkemöller app helps with this process by sending customers push notifications to stimulate their activity during certain times. The whole project took 2.5 years and required Mountford to hire a data scientist who gets paid as much as a senior director.
A focus on the target customer: age is not just a number
Hunkemöller as a lingerie brand fully understands what it means to support women while being in touch, playful, and empowering at the same time. This is why they call their target audience “Sheroes” (a word invented by supporters of female voting rights in the 1920s) to capture the powerful image of their customers (this is more than just a label: Hunkemöller has assembled a focus group with which tests their new ideas and give feedback).
The target customer does not fall into a certain age category, rather it is about having a certain mindset. Mountford gave the example that a woman in her 20s and a woman in her 50s pick the same products to buy. As a lingerie brand, it is also very important for them to have a strong focus on diversity and inclusion, especially when it comes to the models that represent that brand.
The lingerie brand has also found a lot of success through its various forward-thinking marketing activities. They found that they can push the boundaries of where the brand can go through influencer collaborations, which have proven to be very successful. As a riskier venture, Hunkemöller prepared a Fashion Show in 2022 with an audience of 1,500 guests, which was unusual as this takes a very big investment, and they are an accessibly priced bra and underwear brand that usually would not have the budget to support such an event. The fashion show ended up being a success and very important for the overall brand image. The company will be continuing the Fashion Show with more than double the number of attendees.
Omnichannel: Returns, wholesale, and third-parties
Hunkemöller was very early to e-commerce, which represents 38% of the business, and therefore they are fully equipped with click-and-collect, check and reserve, fulfilment and dispatch from the store, with 80% of e-commerce sales coming from their app (4.5 million active members use its 2-click purchase feature). As an omnichannel retailer, Hunkemöller is as concerned as any other retailer when it comes to the issues that returns bring in terms of depreciating margins. However, the brand has noticed that for every return in the store, 48% of customers repurchase.
When it comes to the customer journey, customers who enter the store are greeted by scanning their membership badge, which allows the salesperson to understand their shopping habits across all channels and share the size and type of products that fit and correspond to the customer. This information helps achieve personalization through the empowerment of technology, such as Einstein from Salesforce, that can help customers get their sizing right, resulting in a reduction in return rates when purchases are made online for instance. This is critical: Hunkemöller’s bras come in 73 different sizes and their bras only range on average between €30-50 per item. While these price ranges do not fall under the luxury category, Hunkemöller is offering high-street services, such as insights and personalization that help customers repurchase after a return, a service that you would typically only find from luxury brands.
Originally Hunkemöller was not open to wholesale and third-party models, but their partnership with Zalando pushed them into such a wholesale agreement which ended up being very successful for the business, doing €40 million in sales. Today the brand works beyond just Zalando with partners such as Amazon, Asos, Next, and Tmall to name a few. The brand is doing €140 million in turnover now with concessions, marketplaces, and wholesale. The brand’s global reach encompasses 19 countries, and 29 international franchise stores, with a projection of 972 own-operated stores by 2025.
In order to get ahead of returns in the third-party market, Hunkemöller takes any products off marketplaces that are not profitable and that have a return rate that is unacceptable after 10 days. While Hunkemöller’s return rates on their own site are 32%, the return rate on Zalando is 60%. Another downside to marketplaces is that EBITDA margins are very low in comparison to wholesale and a retailer’s own site. Overall, marketplaces are not easy to manage as they each have their own algorithms and Hunkemöller does not make a lot of money off of these partnerships. Originally Hunkemöller entered marketplaces to be able to prove themselves for wholesale relationships, but now marketplaces are being used so that there is no commitment to the stock by third parties.
To combat returns, Hunkemöller has 73 sizes and various styles from 65AA to 100J. They have also created a guide called “Sexy comes in all shapes” which assigns a shape to its customers. Customers start with their size and then pick the style that they would like to ensure the right fit. This categorization reduced returns from 48% to 32%. This is extremely difficult to master even with personalization offered in the app and online. Having consistent sizing is very important to reduce return rates, especially for Hunkemöller as the e-commerce business accounts for such a large portion of the activity.
When it comes to pure retail, Hunkemöller has about 15% of physical stores that are loss-making (this figure used to be only 3% pre-Covid). Hunkemöller sees that their e-commerce business is a strong driver of their profitability, although the e-commerce business is down as it is normalizing from the Covid spike, it is still stronger than pre-2019 levels. Today, salaries and rents are so expensive that these line items kill the margins for physical stores. While e-commerce is definitely easier to control, overall physical stores for Hunkemöller are running at around 85% profitable locations which is not a bad figure. Hunkemöller has an 82.2% intake margin, when Mountford joined, they were only at 64%, which gives them the cushion for positive performance. E-commerce is very profitable with a 38% EBITDA contribution, a returns rate of only 32%, an average pick at 5 pieces, and an average basket of around EUR 80. Hunkemoller uses JDL, a highly efficient and commercial pick rate provider from China, with a cost rate of less than 14%. Hunkemöller thought that the notion of “girl gangs” and their need to go to physical stores vanished just after the COVID-19 pandemic. However, while flagship store traffic remains challenging, 3 years later, it appears that mid-tier cities and small-town stores are doing very well.
Challenges as a risk-taking retail CEO
Being at the end of his tenure, Mountford shared insights into some of the challenges he faced as a CEO in retail, especially in the last couple of years. He shared that he had tried to take the company to IPO, but they got to three days before and the investors pulled the plug which was a huge disappointment as a CEO. They were able to finally re-stabilize the business to talk IPO again, but then Covid hit. Following Covid, there have been a lot of changes and growth in the business, but there are a lot of new challenges for retailers that operate in this age. Global inflation has led to an increase in rents, supply chains, and other expenses that are out of the business’ control. Mountford expects that management is going to become very complicated, because of external factors (for instance, a UK picker in a warehouse needs to be paid £41,000 a year to remain competitive compared to £48,000 for a loyalty manager in marketing).
An additional risk that Hunkemöller took on was increasing prices to address inflation and increased costs. Last year Hunkemöller increased prices by 7.5% and this year they are increasing them by 9.6%. Now, this is the first time that the brand has been conceived by its customers as expensive. This means that the future leadership will need to be very careful about the price threshold of their customers. Hunkemöller has also seen the units per transaction come down, this figure used to be 3 but now it is just under 3. While the average selling price and basket price are still increasing, the number of visitors is decreasing.
When it comes to discounting, markdowns fell close to 25% and 6% of this represents the discount to members from the point program. There is about 15 to 16% of failed fashion markdown in the business. And there is about 73.8% of on-price sales. The biggest influence on the markdown percentage comes from the membership program. Cardholders get discounts when they shop (€5 off every €50 purchase), which has become a drug for the business that has proven to be difficult to stop using. Every time this is scaled back, sales go down. Overall, there is a lifetime value of around EUR 800 per customer.
In his view, this is only the beginning of a very challenging period for retail leaders and businesses, especially for high-street businesses, as they will have to grapple and make do with factors of change that are entirely out of their reach and control.
Philip Mountford’s leadership of Hunkemöller leaves us with rich takeaways. During his tenure, he was not scared to fail and take big risks, which in turn brought high rewards from the success of the Fashion Show to his technological advances by partnering and being willing to act as a ‘guinea pig’ for large tech companies to test their new products on the company. These both boosted the brand’s visibility and recognition as well as drove their digital capabilities, setting them up to be able to serve their customers. He also emphasized the importance of retailers needing to intimately get to know their customers. Knowing your target audience, who they are, and what motivates them can allow retailers to better serve and even influence customers to buy more and return less. In the current landscape retailers are operating in, agility and reinvention such as the ones displayed by Hunkemöller need to be constant considerations for growth.
Credits: IADS (Mary Jane Shea)